This is a reply to Lotus light's comment from the Alien behind the curtain thread.
Not wanting to spark a debate...I do understand what you have said and it is relevant, but... How can you be so sure that we all had a choice ?... is this your direct experiential knowledge that you “know” applies to everyone without exception or is it just a philosophy that appeals. They don't actually have direct authentic self knowledge of such things - Many believe this I know, because a channelled entity has told them that this is so, and I know your not crash hot on channellings either so don't get me wrong I'm not saying this is why I think you believe this...
I have personally uncovered layers upon layers of Akashic Secrets which have even been kept away from those who frequent the immediate Akasha of our cosmos and divergent branches of its multiverse of alt-posibilities (which point to where it is now and were it can go from here)
I recall that the first thing I uncovered about my pre-life state was that there was a level of ascended beings (i wont say masters cos, well, what I'm about to share contradicts the idea of being masterful with that ascent)
This wave had reached some of the highest celestial plains (in spirit) not physical Ascension... our task was to remember/re-create the passage back to the highest realms, and this is because we were the last of the highest plane to incarnate, who were the only ones with the signature of that realm engraved deeply in our beings by contrast to the plethor of souls who had already incarnated and become etched with the desires of the physical (knowledge of 3D which makes a soul thirst to experience it again and again without interest in delving into the mystery and retrieving wisdom that beckons to be yielded)
It was known by source that we would strive and strive to remember the reason for why we still felt unrest whilst being filled by the gifts of the physical plain - which quench others more easily - not because we don't like the physical but because we held the potential to bring the knowledge of the physical realms experiential sensations back to the highest source, by proxy of empathic understandings of those already incarnated (the Akashic field or experiential knowledge of physical sensations) So that the celestial realms could download - via us - these 3D experiential imprints and an ascension portal would open up for all to re-emerge back to the highest Celestial realms which now have a much denser potential of expression whilst still remaining totally non-dense at their baseline (its all consciousness emulating memory of physics like a lucid dream except one can remain there for eternity if they wish)
Ok, so in contrast to all of this, this is was what I remember from feelings and visual memories of these pre-life events that I'm about to share. For one, no one ever had a choice in their first incarnations... it was all spontaneous and souls continued to descend from the non-physical mass of consciousness (God head) like droplets dripping out of an ocean (Tho to be accurate its really an inward implosion into density where layers move inward and fracture into many), not one of them had conscious individuality before being spun off from the God Head. So in not having individuality they could not make a choice... they had not yet been given free will and they descended into the lower realms where they began to complexify with polarity and develop individual soul-awareness ) awareness of motion and separation from the Absolute One. Prior this they have had other lives, Yes... else where in the Omniverse but the Akasha of those lives have been disconnected from the souls through working out the Karma. A soul cannot reach the god head if it has Karma in it... this is what I refer to as spiritual ascension – ascent to the highest plain upon death when one resolves all their own Karma from previous life/s.
So once they are spun back off the god head they then land in the celestial plane (the highest realm or outermost density/template for all possible thought forms) as pure beings – a clean slate of potential, no karma. The next event was that they would then stagnate (not in a bad way there's just no better word to convey) meaning that they would create friction within the tangent of the celestial realm that they reside, due to lack of varieties of expression like a lead weight exerting pressure upon the celestial realms elasticity until it outweighs the celestial fabric and the soul descends further into more diverse expressions of form i.e. the workshop/mind of god or highest Akashic field; all possibilities which are resonant with the highest astral realm - which was the template of lemuria
note: the mind of god is not a part of the god head it is only aware – awareness of awareness – formlessness, whereas the Akasha (mind of God) exists separated from the God head as infinite possibilities existing as static eternal blueprints... (they are not truly separate tho – again in short sentences, words are hard to convey how the Akashic possibilities exist simultaneously as singular to themselves yet connected to the god head which continually experiences them all at once as a formless field i.e. cancelled out as the sum total of Oneness)
The possibilities which are negative are produced through activity of incompatible possiblities interacting in the 3rd D, however in the Akasha which is 4D/5D all possibilities are separate and static so cannot create dissonance or yield knowledge of negative polarity, so it does not exist there, only all the thought forms that a soul can experience and transform into via this passage through the high Akasha do. This is because they are whole and symmetric, and hence beautiful in that sense...
Form here the inevitable descent into moderate separation consciousness, the highest density of 3D occurred i.e. separated from Absolute Source but still able to connect to the “Unity of All Awareness” via the Akashic field which is shared by all things whilst in a state of rest of relaxed activity such as strolling aimlessly or art, music etc.
At this time meditation wasn't even a concept for “spiritual growth” because the separation into denser levels of the 3rd D had not taken place... this only occurred after the first Atomic holocaust in ancient times which ruptured the micro-cosm and hence as above so below it therefore effect the macrocosms integrity with the higher realms Akasha – Akasha of the Omniverse... so a separation into a 3D level with a limited Akashic field took place. This was when Christ came into the picture – tho Christ's role came into play much later after the first holocaust occurred, and when I say Christ I don't mean Yahshua I mean an entity from the highest realm which requires an Avatar to step down.
Once stepped down the Christ serves as a medium to reconnect the Omniverse Akasha to the damaged 3D cosm's. The Avatar is the last soul to incarnate from the highest realm after every other has already done so... this is for the reason that the Avatar/Christed soul was connected to the Akasha before it became damaged and so within their soul's signature they hold the knowledge of all events prior to the fracture of the holocaust... they are also by proxy already formed in the quality of a ascended being, who has knowledge of all that is required to be yielded by 3D lifetimes (lessons) without having lived them because since they have access to the Akasha of All, there is nothing to learn... they are preformed as how an Ascended master becomes when they ascend form 3D life lessons.
However there are a great number of souls who were very close to the same pre formed quality as Yahshua.. these are the 144000 spoken of in the bible. And they had very little to learn as far as genuine karmic lessons, because of this many of them ascended before the holocaust occurred rendering Yahshua as the Avatar for Christ incarnate. Once they had returned they had accomplished a permanent spot in the highest Astral Realm which is a notch down from the Celestial realm of which pure souls exist in before entering the Akashic field of possibilities.
Here is a visualisation to show how the hierarchy of realms is structured...
Think of a circle which has another circle within it. On the outside of the outermost one is the Celestial realm (the circle is only symbolic tho this place is a plane - it has no shape it's endless) The space between the first and second circle's represents the higher Astral plain which is the Akasha of the omniverse or 5th D. The space on the inside of the second circle is occupied by the 3D Physical plane and the lower 4D Akashic field which overlaps with and is a projection out of the 5th D, whilst it itself projects the quantum waveforms of the 3D Multiverse's within. So the 3rd D is an extensions of the 4th D which is an extension of the 5th.
As the incarnation process occurred and souls moved out of the Celestial into the physical, the Master-Group-soul of the Celestial plain that they belong to began to dilute and so eventually the distance that was travelled by the first wave into the highest astral realms (the Akashic mind of God 5thD) became smaller and so the last one being Yahshua eventually was the last soul of the master-group-soul of which didn't break off – everyone else branched off from him so by the time his soul became an individuated being he found himself at the highest astral realm (he never went through the descending process from the celestial into the Astral, the effect as such being that he is and always will be the energy of the original Celestial group soul which shrank in size as many broke away) as such he holds the original spark of the Celestial Plane's Consciousness (The Christ)– the part which remembers all the other parts, he is the Apex of the high Akashic field.
This is all relevant to grasp why those who were very close to Yahshua (as near perfect forms prior incarnating) could only reach so far as the highest astral plane on ascent. They could not go back to the Celestial Plane, for Yahshua was the one with the key back there and he - as the Original spark which was diluted and slowly progressed into the 5thD Akasha/highest astral could not go back there until everyone who had chosen to (were working on) ascending to the high astral had made their way back. Thereby they would re-integrate as a Group soul whilst maintaining individuality of form defined by their life experiences.
Since only a hand full by contrast to the total (144000) had ascended at the time of the holocaust Yahshua had to incarnate to create the Christ entity bridge (ascension portal) between the fractured cosm and the high astral plain. The beings who had ascended served the role of maintaining the Christ-entity from above as the over-soul of Yahshau or the original celestial spark, whilst Yahshua step it down and rode it to the cosmos at the base of the 3rd D lowest density of which th eholocasut occurred . This was possible because once the fracture occurred Yahshua was no longer a preformed perfect being as the fracture caused a lull in the integtrity of his Akashic scope of all knowingness of what was possible in the 3rd D, so he had to incarnate to remember the experiential knowledge that he was formed with of which pre-knew all of what it was like to be physical. I have detailed in another blog called Techgnosticism about how there was higher-D technology involved with this as well as some other bizzare non-linear factors - ascended beings form alternate tangents of the Celestial plain who were involved in a process which rendered Yahshua's original pristine form as intact - in a state like suspended animation sleep - in a time fold on the edge/overlap of the Celestial and the highest astral plain.
This occurred during/after the initial holocaust and it caused his consciousness to descend in frequency within his pristine being to the first notch down on his path of descent, which levelled him on a band in the 5th D Akasha a little lower than the place that his pristine template slumbered/slumbers (its non linear so cant speak of it as in the now for it is but its also completed at the same time)
Once he had done this and sowed the seeds of the Christ-entity back into the consciousness of all beings who were receptive (those who had not committed 100% to service to self) He ascended – needless to say he had tremendous opposition in performing this task and ended up being crucified in the process. It was in his crucifixion that he transcended death and ascended above the empathic connection that he was hampered with (being anointed by the worlds sin yet not succumbing to it) and thereby fulfilling the portal nexus for those who received seeds. In truth Christ doesn't save anyone, Yahshua just simply fixed a problem that was preventing the righteous from ascending, this meant that in the process many souls were subject to repeating lessons unnecessarily due to the fact that true ascension had not been able to take place for them many times prior when they were in fact worthy.