What's That Saying Again???

What's That Saying Again???

by Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, Comments(17)

Hey dear Lighty friends,

Just for the heck of it - 'The Path To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions' - is that so??? What does this phrase mean exactly???

Much love to you all
Ish )O(

Hi Ish,


March 10, 2012, 10:29 pm
I didn't watch the video, and later on I was wondering what the context of the blog question was asked in b/c my response could have been read as curt. So didn't mean it that way at all. In the case you are discussing, I don't even consider that scenario in the same category as my response. My response goes with a situation where you VERY WELL KNOW you should not tread, like paths people choose in life, like what kind of work they do, or who they love, or how they raise your children or how they think about themselves, or whether they have talent etc, that kind of thing. To stop and help or not is a completely different thing. One where you take a gamble maybe and then are presented with a challenge. Hope this makes sense. Love ya tons!! K

Oh Well Of Course You Running


March 10, 2012, 4:42 pm
Oh well of course you running over the koala was not your intent at all. You were probably the hand of fate in that case. I was thinking more along the lines of people throw trash in the water. They don;t intend to kill the fish but they did intent to put the trash in the water.

Also, I think the phrase may have come into being more along the lines of "progress." Remember when everyone did things "in the name of progress?" During the big oom in industry which really only recently ended as we began the computer age. War was in the name of progress. Nuclear weapons. Giant incinerators. Stuff like that. It was all done so "one day" later things could be "better."

It Could Be That Too

Black Ishtar

March 10, 2012, 6:09 am
Hey Karen,

Good to hear from you sweetheart, how are things going? I understand what you are saying and it's quite accurate. If I had of minded my own business the other day, when that young girl had hit that guy in the car, I'm quite sure things would've turned out differently regarding the entire distressing scenario that unfolded that day as a consequence of that one particular incident. If I had just driven past her and not stopped, none of the other stuff would've happened (it would've happened - but I wouldn't have been involved in it). I didn't feel as if I was interferring, I felt I was helping.
So where do you draw the line between when to get involved and when not too? It's a hard one.

There's more to this phrase than meets the eye, it's completely ambiguous as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts Karen, it's made me ponder moreso lol.

Much love to you darling sis
Ish )O(

I See What You Mean

Black Ishtar

March 10, 2012, 5:58 am
Hey Christen,

I see what you mean - but would that only apply to deliberate intention? Like if you deliberately set out to pollute the water, or hurt an animal. I accidentally ran over a Koala once and killed the poor thing, I was absolutely beside myself with remorse.
Just like smoking a cigarette, many years ago lots of people smoked, because they were unaware of the harmful affects on their health and the health of others. With further knowledge, many ceased to smoke because they are now aware of it's deadly consequences. I can remember, when it was considered 'cool' to smoke.
I still can't completely grasp the concept of this phrase - so it has total resonance within me. I don't even know why it's bothering me. It's just that, I heard it on the radio and it's now stuck in my mind. It's difficult to wrap my head around. Thanks for your perspective Christen, appreciate it.

Much love to you darling
Ish )O(

For Me...


March 10, 2012, 5:35 am
it means you are into something that is none of your business, but you're going to make it your business and claim you did it with good intentions, moral of the saying, mind your own business.

I Take It To Mean...


March 9, 2012, 7:16 pm
I take it to mean...

"I didn't mean to do it!" Like pollute the water, hurt someone's feelings, kill the animal, etc.... You are saying you regret it, it was not your intent.

Ad then the answer to that is, "Well the road to hell is paved with good intentions." Meaning, the action counts not the heart.

This is sort of in opposition to current new age thought, huh? But our actions need to follow our intentions, not oppose them.


Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, 12:41 pm
Hey Heather,

Kimbra does remind me of Katy Perry too. I thought she looked kind of familiar, but I just couldn't put my finger on who she reminded me of. Thanks darlin - another of my mysterious ponderings solved lol.

Much love to you dearest sis
Ish )O(


Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, 11:43 am
So I'm not going to get a massage??? Well I better scratch that off my tally board of 'You Owe Me's'lol. Best you scratch my lawn mowing of your 'IOU's' heehee.

Yeah - I wonder what defines a 'good intention' that could turn 'evil'???

I like fedora's too - how good was that guy dancing??? Mr Slick N Smooth.

You have a great weekend Zen - I suppose you are 'intending' to do something with that tree that's lying in your back yard???

Much love to you dear brother
Ish )O(

"I Cannot Carry Your Load..."


March 9, 2012, 11:15 am
"...for I am fully burdened. I see you are too, and I know the strain.

"All that I can offer is my encouragement, I think your load is worthy of portage, as I do mine. We will work together, separately."

I have had to define the subtleties between encouragement and evil "good intentions" (as you noted, which are little more than carless promises). My uncle didn't help me with the house, but he said "I do think it's worth saving..."

Ah, our yard is good. I just dropped a tree in it a few days back so it won't need mowing for a while.
AND your massage was purely hypothetical, meant to encourage and send kudos rather than put you into expectation. Thinking "that ZenD owes me a massage!" Or me thinking "When the hell is Ish gonna get here with the mower?"

We can sure see there is room for more subtle understandings than just "LOVE. Love love. Lovingly love love."

GREAT video by the way, I'll have to find a fedora cause I wanna dance like that dude.

Shine Bright.


Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, 10:08 am
Ahhh Zen,

I see exactly what you mean - there is a difference between intent and actually doing 'it' (whatever 'it' is). Like I intended on going around to your place to mow your lawns but I got sidetracked by something else. It's like breaking a promise, or failing to follow through, an apathetic attitude. Like our favourite Ozzy saying 'Don't worry about it, she'll be right mate!!!'
It's not just about living as a human BEing, you have to be a human DOing.
Basically, you should practice what you preach - particularly if you are preaching good intentions.

Well you're not just a pretty face afterall Zen - thanks for that. Btw, to be honest - I won't be coming to mow your lawn - well, not for a while anyway lol.

Much love to you dear brother
Ish )O(

Could Be


March 9, 2012, 9:22 am
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

I read that as a disclaimer regarding the "theory to reality" gap. Kinda like "it's the thought that counts." If I think I want to give you a new Ferrari for your birthday, then I am a swell guy. BUT you are still not driving a Ferrari.

If humans live in a shitty world and think, "If x was true, it wouldn't be so shitty." THEN do nothing to make x true, they're still stuck in a shitty world. BUT if they act in the direction of making x true then they're walking towards heaven.

Maybe the corollary would be, "The means to heaven is through right action."

When you left the house the other morning your intention certainly wasn't to play hero, you wanted to take care of your obligations so you could come home and chill. BUT the universe had other plans, you didn't drive on, you stopped. You didn't shirk, you CPRed.

It wasn't "I would've stopped if I hadn't been so busy..." much different. Talk is cheap.

NOW I'll listen to your tune, no doubt to find I've completely missed the point of the blog. LOL.

Shine Bright.

Nice! Thank You! I Do Like


March 9, 2012, 9:21 am
Nice! Thank you! I do like the last one...a lot different then what you hear in the US. She does remind me a little of Katy Parry though!

Tribute To Kimbra

Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, 7:42 am
For you Heather,


Much love to you darlng sis
Ish )O(

I Like It Too

Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, 7:22 am
Hey Heather,

I'm pleased you enjoyed the music. Kimbra is a very talented and versatile performer, her album hit the top 10 here in Oz last year in 2011. She's actually from New Zealand, but she really hit the big time in Australia, particularly when she performed with Gotye on his song 'Somebody that I used to know'. It was the biggest selling single in Oz's history. Great song, you should listen to it, if you get the chance.

Much love to you darling sis
Ish )O(


Black Ishtar

March 9, 2012, 7:18 am
Hey O,

You might be onto something lol. I have absolutely no idea what your phrase is supposed to mean either.

Much love to you dearest brother
Ish )O(

Ish, I Really Liked This!


March 9, 2012, 7:10 am
Ish, I really liked this! Music isn't the same anymore is it? No more instruments or dancing or dressing of nice to put on a show. This was fun to watch!

Heather :)

Was It:


March 9, 2012, 7:09 am
"It never rains but it pours?"

Blessings - O


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