About The Lyrans (The Lion People) - The Feline Race

About The Lyrans (The Lion People) - The Feline Race

by Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, Comments(21)
Ancient and Lost Civilizations

The following information is a composite of knowledge that I have gathered through other Felines from my homeland galaxy of Lyra & Vega star systems - slowly we are connecting with each other,  There are a few of us here on earth at the moment but I know there will be more of us here in the coming days, so you will probably be become acquainted and more aware of a presence in due time.  We are here to help and assist you with your emancipation and the Ascension process:-

The Lyrans are a race of humanoids that have been in existence long

before the history of Earth began. We come from many planets

associated with the star system of Lyra. We are very humanlike in our

appearance. You would not be able to tell us from any other human if

you were to pass one of us on the street. In fact we are responsible

for the seeding of your planet with the humanoid looking being that is

associated with Earth. We are perhaps on the average a little taller

than most Earth humans and our skin is not as dark, but those would be

the only differences between us.

There is some information out there that says we are now Pleiadians,

but that is in fact not true. We would be considered cousins to them

in a manner of speaking, but we are not one and the same. We worked a

great deal in conjunction with the Pleiadians in seeding efforts not

only on Earth, but many other planets as well. In that respect we

share a great deal in common with the Pleiadians. In fact many Lyrans

have lived many lifetimes as Pleiadians.

We exist on a higher-level plane of existence than earth is presently

on at this moment in time. In fact we as a race have transitioned to

this higher plane successfully in relatively recent times. This is one

of the reasons we have a keen interest in Earth at this time because

of Earth's own ascension process taking place now. This also is why

there are many Lyrans incarnate on Earth at this time so as to be of

assistance to the Earth and Her peoples in this time of transition. We

are here to help show the way, because of our experience. In a sense

we have a parental role to play with the peoples of Earth and we are

watching you grow and mature.

There are several clues that would point to the fact that a person is

a Lyran living on Earth. These clues have more to do with the

personality than with the physical as our morphogenic form is very

similar with humans from Earth.

The person will have a sense of mission. They will know at some level

even though they may not be able to put their finger on it that they

have a specific purpose for being here. The person will be drawn to

the stars. This may take the form of being interested in astronomy for

example or reading science fiction or being attracted to science

fiction movies and the paranormal of all sorts. Also the person will

sense that there is an underlying truth in these books and movies. It

may feel like you have been a part of something like you are reading

or watching. These people also know that the human is capable of so

much more, but knows that they have been lied to about the human


The person will also have a sense of underlying authority. People will

tend to gravitate to you and trust your thoughts, judgments and

opinions. The person may not be in a high position of authority, but

nonetheless people recognize your authority. There will also from time

to time be issues with authority or rather an aversion to authority


There is a certain amount of sternness and seriousness that goes with

this type of person. They will not "suffer fools gladly" as the saying

goes. In this vein they will not be the life of the party (not necessarily - I love parties)

They are more quiet and reserved and tend to do more observing than talking.

(some do - not me)

This type tends to be loners. Not that they do not have family and

friends, but they are comfortable with themselves and do not always

need everyone around for fulfillment.

That is all for now, though we will have more to share in the near



The Felines are one of the two primary races in our universe. They arrived here by invitation of the Founders. Having successfully completed their Universal Game and completing their universe, a group of 45 Felines volunteered to come to this universe to help setup and oversee the same game here.

The Felines are a bipedal race that stand 12 to 16 feet tall. Their skin is covered by a sort of soft fuzz, and though they don’t have fur, they do have manes and both the males and females have long hair.

Their eye color ranges from blue to gold and can change from blue to gold as they mature. They also turn from a golden brown color to white.

The overall Feline temperament is warm, sanguine and intellectual. As they mature they take on more of a somber, introspective and gentle nature. The elders are revered for the wisdom, compassion and insight.

As a race they are extremely close and have a great sense of fair play. The females are revered and honored in equal status with the males. And true to the feline way, they are all very curious and inquisitive.

As part of the Universal Game, the Founders gave the Felines a new planet in the Lyra Constellation for their home. The Felines named it Avyon. Now this is not the exact pronunciation, nor spelling , but it is close enough. The real name cannot be translated into English.

Avyon was a paradise planet with mountains, lakes, streams and oceans. This blue planet was very much like our present earth in form and variety of vegetation and life forms.

When the Felines arrived, they were in etheric form, and therefore, went through the stage of evolving a physical body in which to reside on the planet. After many millions of years they evolved the lion and other felines and began incarnating into those forms.

As part of the plan, a portion of the original Felines stayed in etheric form to provide guidance to those incarnating. They would be the equivalent of your modern day Christos Beings. Remember, this was a 3D planet and once the etheric felines incarnated they would fall under the veil of amnesia that is part of the workings of a 3D planet of free will.

As time passed, and through countless incarnation cycles, the Felines evolved a line of felines that walked upright and retained the consciousness of their etheric counterparts thanks to the periodic incarnations of some of the etheric Felines, and DNA from a bipedal mammal similar to the Ape, that was evolving on the planet as well.

With the DNA from the ape-like mammal the Felines were able to take on a more human-like body while retaining most of the facial features and other characteristics of the feline. It was from this crossing when it reached a certain stage that the genetic line known as the Royal Line of Avyon, or House of Avyon, came into being.

The etheric Felines would continue to take turns incarnating to provide not only DNA upgrading, but teaching and training in higher dimensional principals lest their planet bound brothers and sisters get stuck in the non-sentient animal incarnation cycle. As you can see, the Felines evolved on Avyon in much the same manner as Humans evolved here on Earth. The only difference is that the Humans did get stuck in the animal cycle. More on that later.

In time the conscious Felines grew large enough in number to take on the responsibilities of planetary guardians of their home world. They continued to evolve and eventually developed the technology for space travel and then warp technology. Their etheric brothers and sisters continued to act as their guides.

Many among them became geneticists (a Feline specialty) and began helping to develop life forms of various kinds for planets and stars in the universe. Some among them became great space explorers and scientists of various kinds.

It was during this stage in their development that the Felines would turn their attention to that bipedal mammal they owed so much to, and begin a program of genetic crossing and upgrading that would give them a soul and, in the process create a new species that would become known as the Humans.

After numerous crossings and genetic upgrades, the Adamic Human was made. There were two strains, the redheaded strain being the more outgoing and energetic, and the platinum blonde strain being the more gentle-natured and introspective.

After many thousands of years of continued careful crossing breeding, the Feline/Human hybrids began to be more common in the royal line of the Felines, The House of Avyon, than the purebred Felines were. Yet, this was the plan.

In time the purebred Felines would become the ancient ancestors of the Humans with only their genetic traits as a reminder of the connection between them. And though the genetic relationship between the Felines and Humans has been forgotten by modern man, the Felines remain in our consciousness as a regal creature, worthy of our respect and love.

The Felines remain the loving and supportive guardians of their genetic offspring, the Humans. They have continued in this role through time and all dimensions of the Universal Game.

Devin (Feline) is the reigning patriarch of the 9D Royal House of Avyon, and Anu (Human) is the reigning patriarch of the 5D Royal House of Avyon at this time.

After the lyran wars, our homeworld was one of the last standing against the old empire, the annanuki, that took and devastated many systems. Our own world was destroyed in the end with billions still left there as only so many could be rescued. We were taken into many systems, Pleiades, the blond haired nordic looking pleidians are the lyraean ones, as well as Sirius, and Andromeda, and other systems as well. We exist in higher dimensions in these other systems as I have been shown living in a crystal city in the pleiadian one once while doing a mediation. We are aspects of our higher selves, and on assignments.


From what I've learned about these beautiful and optimistic peoples, this is the history of the Lyran/Vegan race:


Long ago the Lyrans came to our galaxy from another not far from this one, demonstrating their wonderful creative abilities of crafting and uplifting new species in Eden of the universe. They are a very peaceful peoples with an endless culture concerning their almost billion year old existience since their ascension. If it wasnt for them we wouldnt be here now, since they uplifted our own creators, the Pleiadeans. And for several years they continued this process of creation and as a result thousands of races rose into perfect balance and oneness with the universe along side with the mighty and loving Lyrans.


This great surge of Light attracted negative beings through natural Universal law. For a long time they mingled peacefully for many years in perfect balance and they too created beings to further balance the galaxy. The Lyrans homeworld is in the vicinity of Vega. From what I KNOW this beautiful planet is lush in both trees and plants and has an endless biodiversity. It is known to have many small waterfalls dotted all across the planets landsurface and this is where most Vegan citys develop. Though i'm not completely certain, but have a pretty good idea of, that Vegan priests wore tanish or green or dark purple robes with sometimes strange long-capped like hats. Otherwise most commoners also wore Purple. The Lyrans are Feline-like peoples that can range from 8ft to 6ft tall. Other Lyran groups can reach above 10ft. They have wonderful towns and citys but many are very isolated or small due to the fact that they can only go so far until they could possibly hurt the enviornment around them like trees or animal species. So a large majority of these places were put upon grassy fields and oasis's. Sadly i'm not sure enough what they're ships looked like but the Lyrans had also a large peacekeeping space fleet that traveled the universe to find new worlds to test their wonderful creating abilites.


And for a long time the galaxy was in peace and harmony for millions of happy years to come...

But something occured that made the negative beings angry at the Vegans and their creations and after many attempts to make peace once again a fellow allied star system was attacked by reptilian and bird beings fleet of ships and thus the Great Galactic War began. The Vegans didnt want to interfere. But when the battle front came very close to home, and after billions had been killed from Draconian and reptilian invasions alike the Lyrans feared that their homeland would not make it to the end of this war. So many told the species that they had most recently created, the humanoids, to escape from the attack and to make homeworlds elsewhere. They broke into three distinct factions and left for other worlds to prosper by. Not too long after Lyra was soon introduced to an ultimatum: You leave your homeworld, and never come back again, or: you die by the reptilian warcraft, and sent to extinction.


In such desperate times even some peoples ofthe extremely spiritual loving and peaceful lyrans called for some type of rebellion. But they knew they could not do this in fear of losing their spiritual place in this universe. When the attacks began a large majority fled to neighbooring universes and took everything they could to accompany them. Another majority integrated with the three fleeing factions which would later become the Pleiadean, the Orion, and the Andromedan humanoid races. While others stayed at their homes and would rather accept death for the pure fact that they couldnt live with the sorrow that is happening to the galaxy and to the peoples they themselves created. Then a terrible bombing run was released onto the great abandoned and once peaceful and serene lands of the Lyran homeworlds. And little was left of their history afterword. And none of their citys were left unmarked by the great destructive bombs of war. After Vega was successfully wiped of any Lyran inhabidants, and others taken prisoner, it was over. The reptilians thought they had succeeded in their genocide of the Lyran race, and that all were truely extinct from this universe.


Luckily, that wasnt true. A group of shamans and priests were specifically chosen to keep the teachings, the history, and the beautiful and peaceful culture of the Lyrans alive forever. Afterword many left their physical bodies to become immortalized not for the purpose of living near forever, but to spread their message more easily across the galaxy and so on. To the ones who listened to these divine priests and shamans the children of the Vegans now knew that the Lyrans were still very alive and that they were always there for the sons and daughters that they had helped create and uplift. They also told the children of the Vegans thriving in a sister universe than this one. This was mainly their message to spread hope to the postive beings of the galaxy. Because partly of their courage and virtue the moral of the postive beings at war was greatly increased and then they established a uniting-rebellion federation that would bring together all of the beings that wanted to be free of the reptilian grasp and thus, even against towering odds of their much smaller force, the reptilians surrendered years later. This would later become the Galactic Federation of Light.


Without the Lyrans, the war would never have ended on such a note, and the reptilians would have completely unbalanced the universe while killing billions of innocent lives. Now why cant the Lyrans just return to this universe now that the war is over? Well the reptilians though currently not in major warfare against anyone at this exact moment still havent felt sympathy(or is that empathy?) for the Vegans and what they have done to them. The Vegans were commanded to stay in the other universe and sadly never come back. Who knows when the rep's will have a change of heart but we should all know that even if reptilians have a bad past and they are negative beings, DOESNT MEAN that they are bad people. I'm pretty sure sometime in the far future the Vegans can safetly return to the universe and an age of harmony will begin once more.


Starseeds that have dominant Lyran origins may be confused at the fact that almost everyone in the galaxy is Lyran, because a large majority of the space federations that starseeds come from were or had relationships with the Lyran Federation of Light. It is almost certain that if you came from Vega one time you also reincarnated in other uplifted species as well. If you are purely Lyran, which is very rare, the only explanation is that you could be one of the famous Sages that stayed in this universe during the Galactic war.


Here are the Traits of Lyran starseeds as follows:

"Vegans Those who have Vega as their planetary origin are self sufficient, independent, proud and strong willed. There is an outer smooth energy and appearance of strength and capability. Those from Vega tend to be knowledgeable in a wide variety of areas, they may be trivia "collectors" for information concerning their areas of interest. They have a variety of talents and capabilities, are quite creative and often have an ability to combine creative expression with intellectual expression. They may be artists, designers, inventors, architects or in current times may work more closely with creativity through new or expanding technologies. Their methods of working with technology will differ from many, as it is based more on "feeling" than on intellectual understanding. They do well at beginning projects, but less well at completing them. There may be lessons to aid Vegans in learning self discipline and will power or they may surround themselves with others who are supportive and will aid in the completion of projects and ideas.

Those from Vega are travelers who seek variety, challenge and understanding of the many questions they have within. They may become bored easily. They tend to analyze, question and doubt all which they do not understand, does not meet their belief system or simply does not "feel" right. Although quite willing to learn, change and grow, Vegans need understanding to occur on an inner level to allow opening within for change to occur. This understanding will not be of a practical, logical nature. It will be an inner comprehension that will be more a "feeling" that leads to "knowing" instead of a technical understanding.

Most from Vega have a strong sense of responsibility, nurturing and caring. They may find fulfillment in working with children, those who are ill or in need of care and support. At times however, they may be overly responsible for others, and may need to remind themselves of the importance of teaching responsibility, as well as being responsible. They may need to work with developing a stronger sense of feeling the integrity of others, as they may find themselves taken advantage of due to their caring nature. They may find others attracted to their understanding energy, and may be approached in many situations by others wishing to share personal problems. It should be noted that few from Vega are themselves willing to share personal details with others, unless trust is first established.

Vegans have healing abilities, and may have an affinity for stones and crystals. Many from Vega work in caring for others in the area of health care, either physical, mental, as teachers or in areas which allow freedom of creative expression. They have a strong need for time alone, privacy, and freedom from restrictions. It is important that they be shown appreciation for what is done for others. Those in personal relationships with Vegans may at times be in need of more attention, and may feel somewhat neglected, due to their many interests and areas of focus. They may become so involved with caring for others, that they neglect personal needs and personal relationships."

-Starseed Origins




Much love to you all
Ishtar )O(

What If U Feel All Of Them?


February 6, 2012, 5:19 pm
Hello Thank You for this message.. what do u do if u feel like an angel with Lemurian, feline and orb soul tendincies, have moments of horrid anger in the past leaving the feeling of also reptillian! Can there be such a blended human? Cuz I feel like them all >|< when I kept buggin AA Michael and my guides who am I? n who are we as humanity? this is th site they brought me too www.nibiruancouncil.com there I learned about the 7 main ones.. dunno how I ended up on this thread so i guess its meant to be found? Love and Light Quay[/vc_column_text][/vc_column][/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text letter_spacing=""][/vc_column_text][/vc_column][/vc_row]

Dear S-Ish-tar,


November 1, 2011, 1:14 pm
I would definitely love to hear more...this is all so interesting :)
Much Love to you...and thank you for always sharing your wisdom...it is much apreciated and can spark some distant memories..!!
Big hugs,

It Certainly Does


November 1, 2011, 10:46 am
Hmm...I have to mull this over.
Thank you, Ishtar
Much love and hugs

Wow, Ishtar, Amazing Stuff.


November 1, 2011, 3:35 am
Wow, Ishtar, amazing stuff. And we have much in common. The Pleiadians also were not monogamous (couples were free to choose so some were and some weren't), but the culture is changing rapidly. One of the reasons eros and I are here - it's a very long story, but Pleiadians have much knowledge now about divine, "God-sanctioned" marriages...(scientific/mathematical, which is extremely complex and beyond my understanding but Einstein, Eros, Hermes, and some others have been working on this - it is much more complex even than quantum physics).

At any rate, my parents also went their separate ways and went off to different planets and I was raised by my Plieadian grandmother - and of course, that also means by the Pleiadian people since we live by the African proverb, "It takes a village to raise a child." Pleiadians have such deep love for children. It is sad what happened to your family, but you were definitely raised by the "love people."

AND I found my Pleiadian grandfather! He is here on earth. He is in his late 80s but the story of how I came to find him and the transformation he made afterwards is so amazing! My grandmother embodies his cat and watches over him. He does not know any of this but he does love it when I come to visit him. My tf guided me to finding him. I need to go visit him again soon! Before winter sets in. His house is in a shambles.


Isn't Mercury Their


November 1, 2011, 3:17 am

Isn't Mercury their product?
In his last book my tf discusses how the "imperial market" is destroying "our sense of humane purpose, substituting a way of thinking and being that leads to an extreme makeover of the planet: an earth devoid of plant and animal life that works to imitate the chic look of Mercury" (p. 113).

What do your remember/or have learned about Mercury?

Interestingly, my twin flame's earth middle name is Lyons...there is something about that.


Thanks Jeff

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 11:29 pm
Kadoish to you too,

I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Of course this is not the full story - it's just bits and pieces that have been put together that the few Lyrans that are here now can remember and resonate with. The more Lyrans that we connect with usually have their little bit to add. So hopefully one day we will have the full picture.

Much love to you dear brother
Ish )O(


Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 11:26 pm
Dupe :)

Tigers Are Of Feline Origin

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 11:25 pm
Hey Karen,

Any cat, your resonate with is of Lyran descent, hang on darling - Magenta Pixie has a wonderful vid that will explain it to you. I'll just go and get it for you - it may help.

Does it make more sense to you now? I hope so.

Much love to you darling sis
Ish )O(

Hey Starlite,
If It Rings A

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 11:21 pm
Hey Starlite,

If it rings a bell and resonates - you are probably of Lyran descent. There are few pure bred Lyrans in existence, but a lot of races from the Pleiades, Sirius and Andromeda, plus a few others, have strong relations and ties to our species. The Sphynx in Egypt, was built in honour of the Lyrans, inside the Sphynx lies the genetic and DNA codes for every species in the Universe, it just hasn't been discovered yet. It will be soon though - it lies deep underneath in all the chasms and tunnels that interconnect with the pyramids and tombs of the pharoahs. It's fascinating stuff when you get into it.

Much love to you dearest sis
Ish )O(

I Lived On The Pleiades

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 11:15 pm
Hey Sofe,

I don't have many recollections of the Crystal City but I have heard much about it. You see, I was sent by my Lyran parents, to the Pleiades as a small child. Along with my six sisters, I was a little Prince, Tristram, I believe my name to be then. I was only about two or three years old, I can remember fretting for my mother terribly as a child. My sisters were always there to console and spoil me. Consequently, I was bought up as a Pleiadian, a wonderful empthatic race of people, that allowed the Lyrans to freely assimilate with their species.
Monogamy is not an issue with Lyrans, my father (who I have met in the ethereal realms is still alive but I can't recall his name), chose to stay behind with my mother and aunts - he had about 4 wives - just like you see in a pride of lions today, I think my mother may have been killed and my aunts taken by the Dracs as slaves. A fate worse than death in regards to the noble and proud Lyrans. Most are of royal descent, but had no slaves. That is why today you see many Lions turn on Lion Tamers in a circus. This is an absolute defilement and degrading way to keep any feline. Many Lyrans that are here today, wish they had fought back against the Dracs, we had way superior technology and weapons and star fleets then - but alas, our hands were tied because of the Universal Peace Keeping Oath we made with other friendly Galactic Nations. Only to see them fall and be destroyed in front of our very eyes by the ruthlessn and mercenary Draconians. I don't think that will happen again, particularly here on earth. We are here now in a protective, parental role.

Much love to you dearest sis,
Ish )O(

Great Post


October 31, 2011, 11:05 pm
Great post
very interesting!

Earth Is So Young

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 10:59 pm
Hey JoJo,

I know what you mean. The Lyrans are such an ancient and sophisicated civilisation, a very proud but loving, gentle beings. Every bit of life they seeded in the various Universes, was done with great love and respect. I guess you could say they really are our parents and take on that caring, loving and guiding parental role. There are not many, but I know more and more are coming to earth and are being innately drawn to each other, to connect and find out what our true purpose is here on earth. We don't want the Dracs (reptilians who are behind the Illuminati) to do to earth what they did to other star nations. Which is completely ravage and destroy many planetary systems, by exploiting their resources and enslaving the numerous races. The Lyrans will not stand for anymore devastation within the Universe and are now prepared to fight for what is right. There is little of their star fleet left due to the wars, the only frigate that really is in service to the GFOL, is the Starship Pelegai where Lord Devin is the commander. It's an ancient battleship, but still very servicable and is massive. I will have to tell you more about the Lyrans and my link to them. It's a fascinating but very sad story.

Much love to you GG
Ish )O(

Yes I Saw The Vid

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 10:47 pm
Hey Courtland,

Yeah - Carter sent me the vid, I was overwhelmed because I didn't realise they (Lyrans) were finally making contact. It's amazingly wonderful to hear from them at last, for us few here on earth to hear that our astral relatives are now coming forward and speaking up. James was exactly right, when he said they are extremely loving, gentle and powerful beings. So little is known about us and our heritage, that many of the Lyrans now on earth have had to previously put the pieces of our fragmented history together based on deep regression of distant memories. It's great to know that there is one more star nation (albeit) what's left of it, on our side as well. I'm sure they won't allow what happened to their homeland happen again here on earth. It's great news.

Much love to you dearest sis
Ish )O(

Blessings Ish ...


October 31, 2011, 6:33 pm
Blessings Ish ...
James Gilliland speaks of the Lyrans visiting his Ranch and several sightings of these celestial beings recently ... www.ECETI.org ... this might interest you! He speaks of how majestic they are!
Beautiful Sharing ... thank you!

Very,very Interesting


October 31, 2011, 5:43 pm
dear siSTAR Ishtar...
This makes me think that our earthly history is really only very young and recent...wow..
Much Love and big hugs to you...thank you for sharing ,this is very deep!

That Is So


October 31, 2011, 5:02 pm
That is so interesting! Thank you for posting it. Guess what?! The Crystal City was where Emanu'el/Eros proposed to me! He takes me back there every so often. It's so beautiful.
Much love to you Sister,

Much Of This Really Rings A


October 31, 2011, 5:01 pm
Much of this really rings a bell for me!! Thank you for posting it Black Ishtar.



October 31, 2011, 3:51 pm
I use to fantasize about being princess Leia...I think I felt like her in some way! What a pretty name for your daughter...I never thought of that one. I am definately a mix but I highly resonate with the vegans you speak of....I feel like I was from the future when I came here that is one thing I feel is the truth.


Hi Ish, Hun


October 31, 2011, 3:12 pm
Really informative blog. I read it with interest.
I've never really figured out where I come from, as none of the intergalatic species really resonate with me. I have recall of stepping down through the Pleiades in order to reach Earth, but then most of us have this recall. I suppose I have to come from somewhere, don't I?
My inner cat is a tiger. I have yet to find out where tigers fit in and yet I am not sure I am actually a tiger...maybe I only carry the essence of one within me. Not sure it makes sense.
Anyhoo...on I trudge in search of the ever eluding answer to the question.
From one Goddess to another with love

You're Very Welcome

Black Ishtar

October 31, 2011, 1:38 pm
Hey Kathy,

There is such little information regarding the Lyran Origins, as our civilisation almost faced extinction at the hands of the Dracs(reptilians). Many of us who survived, that are currently on earth (and there a quite a few of us now - some of mixed origin Pleiadian, Andromedan and Sirian) are slowly connecting once again and sharing our almost lost and forgotten knowledge and heritage. Apparently George Lucas himself, originally based his StarWars trilogy loosely around the Intergalactic Lyran Wars. That's why I named my daughter Leia (after Princess Leia lol).

Much love to you dearest sis
Ish )O(

I Am Just


October 31, 2011, 1:30 pm
like the vegan starseed beings you describe...and the only thing is I am not much of a doubter...I am very hopeful and have periods of doubting but I quickly rise above it. Thank you so so much for this awesome information...I really knew all of what you have written but I just can not explain it the way do....but I highly resonate with what you wrote....like it is second nature. I get thoughts that come to me that I have a hard time putting them into words and you did it for me...thanks a bunch Ishtar!


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