Can Human Consciousness Survive Without A Brain? Research On NDE

Can Human Consciousness Survive Without A Brain? Research On NDE

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September 27, 2008, Comments(4)
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Research on near-death experiences is unlikely to find evidence that human consciousness can survive without a brain.

By Sue Blackmore

I was surprised to hear on the news that Sam Parnia has been awarded a big grant to find out whether the human spirit leaves the body at death – whether consciousness can survive when the brain is no longer working. He, and colleagues around the world, will place an image on a platform suspended from the ceiling of hospital wards and resuscitation areas, so that the image cannot be seen from below but could be seen if – during a near-death experience – the patient's consciousness left his body.

I was surprised, not that he has been awarded the grant, but that this made the news. But I assumed that this topic is of sufficient popular interest that, of all the thousands of research grants awarded, this one was worth reporting. Then I heard people saying it was a total waste of time and money. Surely we should be spending scarce research resources on improving patient care or developing new drugs shouldn't we? Well should we? Is this a good use of research money?

I long ago became fascinated with near-death experiences (NDE). In 1970, before the term was even invented, I had an extraordinary drug-induced experience (this was the time of hippy enthusiasm for old-fashioned mild cannabis). This life-changing experience included the tunnels, lights, out-of-body experience and meeting other beings that occur in the classic NDE. I was convinced that my spirit had left my body, and that is why I went on to become a parapsychologist, trying to prove this was true. I found it was not.

If there is any survival, I now think it's more likely to be through technological advances – you can hear me discussing this with musician Peter Gabriel, who is building the first "social networking site for the dead"!

I learned a lot about the experience though. In 1975, physician Raymond Moody coined the term NDE in his book Life After Life. Since then, research has shown that something like 10% of people who come close to death and survive report some kind of memory.

Most seem to rush down dark tunnels towards a bright light, many seem to fly out of their body to watch events as though from above, some go on into "other worlds" where they meet dead loved ones or angels or gods, and a very few reach a barrier from which they decide to return to life. Many are changed by their experiences, often becoming less fearful of death and less materialistic. All of this is well explained by what we know about how brain function changes as it approaches death, or even when in shock or severe stress. This "dying brain hypothesis" tells us a lot about what we can expect of our own deaths.

What could not be explained – if indeed it were true – is people actually seeing things that were happening at the time when they could not possibly have seen them with their physical eyes (or heard them described, or inferred them from what they already knew).

There are many claims of this kind, but in my long decades of research into out-of-body and near-death experiences I never met any convincing evidence that this is true. There is the famous case of the woman in Seattle who apparently saw a shoe on a high ledge and her social worker later found it there. This story, like so many others, relies on the testimony of just one person, in this case the social worker. The woman herself never told anyone else and is now dead, and there is no one else who reported seeing it. The testimony of one person, however sincere, is not sufficient to overturn much of science. And this is what would be entailed.

If human consciousness can really leave the body and operate without a brain then everything we know in neuroscience has to be questioned. If people could really gain paranormal knowledge then much of physics needs to be rewritten. This is what is at stake. Add to that the fact that most people in the population believe in some kind of life after death, and many desperately want it to be true, then you have a strong case for this research – even if the chances of success are vanishingly small.

If Parnia does the experiments properly, and his patients really can see those images, then I will change my mind about the paranormal. I don't think it's going to happen but I do think it's worth him making the attempt.

Source: The Guardian


Scientists study 'out of body experiences'


People who report seeing bright lights or tunnels as they leave their bodies in near-death experiences are having their claims treated seriously in a hospital study.

Scientists study out of body experiences

Scientists will see if consciousness continues after brain death Photo: Justin Sutcliffe

Doctors in hospitals in Britain and the US will study 1,500 heart attack patients to see if people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body" experiences.

Some people report being able to soar out of their bodies and look down on themselves and medical staff.

The study at 25 UK and US hospitals will include doctors placing images on shelves that are only visible from the ceiling to test the theory.

Dr Sam Parnia, an intensive care doctor who is heading the study, said: "If you can demonstrate that consciousness continues after the brain switches off, it allows for the possibility that the consciousness is a separate entity.

"It is unlikely that we will find many cases where this happens, but we have to be open-minded.

"And if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are illusions or false memories.

"This is a mystery that we can now subject to scientific study."

Dr Parnia said that after a cardiac arrest, where the body is technically dead, doctors restart the heart and reverse the dying process.

He said: "What people experience during this period of cardiac arrest provides a unique window of understanding into what we are all likely to experience during the dying process."

Hospitals involved include Addenbrookes in Cambridge, University Hospital in Birmingham and the Morriston in Swansea, as well as nine hospitals in the US.



:)) Great Blog


September 27, 2008, 10:31 pm
the way they are trying to test whether consciousness can survive when the brain is no longer working is bound to fail.


when consciousness "leaves" the body it will  "return" to its source. it can no longer  be taking  for an embodied consciousness with interests of an embodied consciousness and therefor chances are low it will  look down at itself.


the true illusion/dream is in fact that  we perceive ourselves as this  mind/body entity - whilst all there is is one Consiousness  happily playing with itself.....




So Sorry For What I Offer


September 27, 2008, 8:30 pm
So sorry for what I offer not so good news about this topic, but I trust that "they" will NOT find a proof in order to proof it is happen, but that is NOT happen and the world show that all is only imagination. If they find a proof, it will surely NOT made public as so many things in the past which are related with/to "supernatural" "things". For what "they" have no explanation, does NOT exist or if "they" know and put "their" goals in danger comes either corrupted or hidden.

May the truth reveal itself! And I am sure IT will soon!


Life After Life


September 27, 2008, 2:57 pm
My own personal experiences while working as a critical care nurse confirmed, on many occasions, that at the moment of death, the weight of a person decreased by 2-3 lbs. immediately. The weights were done on beds with scales built in so it would not be due to the loss of bodily fluids. There was no explanation other than it was the weight of the soul. One memorable patient who could not so much as turn herself over, at the time of death, sat bolt-upright in the bed, looked upward and said "here I go". She was unsuccessfully resuscitated due to ventricular rupture (heart chamber that had blown out). I knew when she said that, we DO go somewhere when we leave. 25 years of intensive care experience left me without a doubt of life after life. Namaste

"I choose LOVE"



September 27, 2008, 11:03 am
I did hear on the news recently that Cardiff Hospital is also carrying out the experiment which I think is a wonderful thing! Love and Light Alyson x :D


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